I think we would be happier and have higher self esteem if we were on Camazotz. You couldn't judge people or bully them, because they're just like you, and you would be bullying yourself. Everybody would have self-confidence and not be afraid to be themselves. Then again, no one could express themselves because it would be an aberration and it would be "out of the norm." I think some people wouldn't be happy because they can't express themselves, and if you were an aberration, who knows what could happen to you. It could bring shame to you and your family. Plus, it could have serious consequences if you did act "differently" or "out of rhythm."
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QWERTY
5/19/2013 02:57:18 am
I think we would be happier if we all live on Camazotz. Nobody would really be different, therefore there would be nothing to judge each other with. But there would also be the ones that would be unhappy because nobody was their own person, everyone was just the same. The people would be scared to be their own person, because the government would hurt you and possible your family.
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Cookie Monster
5/23/2013 11:48:05 am
No affence or anything :), but I completely disagree with you. Put it this way, what if you, were forced to do something you wouldn't ever want to do by "IT". You would hate it, especially if you had to it a multiple of times. And I don't understand how everybody would be happier on camazotz. Yes, I am aware that there would be no problems, or issues of any sort, but then whats the point of living really. I mean, life is life because of the problems we face today. If everything and everybody was the same for the rest of your life how would you fell. Living every day, hour, minute and second of your life under somebody else's control. - this is just my opinion :)
Chuck E. Muckle
5/23/2013 04:15:18 pm
But CookieMonster, didn't IT hypnotize some of the citizens so they were made to follow the rytheme without second thought and usually, I'm not too sure myself, you wouldn't be aware that your brainwashed because your not able to analyze your actions and thoughts since some one just changed your way of thinking/ acting so it wouldn't be, to you, as if someone is forcing you to do it, it's more like you can't help but do the actions like your body is in control while it is actually not. But for the people who weren't brainwashed I'm probably sure that they are having a painful experience.
Annie
5/24/2013 01:34:28 pm
I also disagree with Qwerty, but I agree with Cookie Monster. Everyone on Camazotz is under the conrtol of IT, right? Therefore, they do not have their own thoughts or feelings. Because of this, they really do not know what being happy might feel like. How would you feel if you couldn't feel anything? Well, first of all, if you were on Camzotz, you would still feel nothing because you are being controlled by a giant brain with no emotion, and you yourself would have no emotion as well. If you could expereince that feeling of nothingness for just a moment, having been exposed to a life with free thought and feeling, the happiness in your body would be drained.
I really like this I was doing some research and this is a great answer and I might of took some notes and I like this answer ❤️
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Annie
5/19/2013 06:36:33 am
I don't think we would be happier on Camazotz because everything is the same. Sure, you can't judge people because they're exactly like you, but what's the point in giving up personality for being in a judge-free world? No matter where you go on Earth, people will judge you, but that is something you just have to put up with if you want to be able to express yourself. On Camazotz, no one can bully or judge anyone else because you are exactly like them, but the downside of that is...you are exactly like them! Everyone talks about how bad it would be to live in a world where everyone was the same and it would be bad, except for the fact that no one could be bullied or judged. I don't believe that this single thing can make an entire planet, where no one and nothing are different than the next, happy. Every privilege comes with a price and being bullied/judged is the price we have to pay in order to have individuality. In my opinion, that is a pretty good deal for us.
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Cookie Monster
5/23/2013 11:50:25 am
I like how you incorporated real life situations into your opinion like bullying and judging.
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MusicManiac44
5/19/2013 05:21:15 pm
If we lived on Camazotz we would be happy but also not. If we are being controlled by one person there is probably no chance of being bullied because practically we would all be the same. Having to do the same things over and over in a rhythm is not the most greatest thing. If you are all the same there is no individuality or being able to express yourself. I mean you probably wear the same clothing like people around you. You cannot really express yourself or do what you feel like when you want to, without being punished by IT.Yes, you would not be judged by your personality because if you do judge you are pretty much judging yourself. Nobody would have that uniqueness in themselves that sets them a little different then the rest of the people around. But that is a good thing and yes sometimes you can get judged or bullied by that, but that can be stopped. You may have a lot of confidence in yourself because no one can say anything to you or because you are no less than anyone else around. But if you were not on Camazotz, you would be getting confidence over something that you have achieved and maybe nobody else has not yet and what would be so great to achieve something that others have done as well.So It can go either way. You could be happy or not happy, but mainly be not happy because you are not you. You would be like everybody else around you.
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Chuck E. Muckle
5/23/2013 04:19:32 pm
I like how you were able to group together the positives and the negatives of living on camazotz since there are good things by living on that planet but since this is reality there will also be bad things that go along with something.
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$UPERMAN
5/20/2013 11:20:15 am
If we lived on Camazotz i think we would all be happier because their would be no bullying and no crime. I say that because bullying causes people to have lower self esteem and also makes people very unhappy. without any bullying, people wouldn't have to care about what they say or what they wear or how they act, people would be carefree. So therefore, i think people would be happier. No crime would also make people happy because they wont be afraid of having anything stolen from them or anyone in their family getting murdered. If a person didn't have to worry about this, the person would be much happier. Self esteem goes down a lot when a person gets bullied and called names, and on Camazotz no one is called names or bullied so that would result in the people having much higher self esteem.
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Cookie Monster
5/23/2013 11:55:28 am
I somewhat agree and disagree with you $uperman. I agree with you on the part that there would be no crime, bullying, and people would be care free. But if you just take a minute and think what life would be without those problems, wouldn't life be boring and and not worth living. I mean some people dedicate there whole life to these issues, and its there passion. But if you never, everrrrrrrr had to deal with a problem you would just be sitting in a corner all alone quietly for the rest of your life. And that too would be a problem because your body would fall asleep and you would have to stretch to wake it up.
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Luno
5/21/2013 10:33:48 am
Yes i think the world would be happier if we all had higher self esteem because every would think no less or no more with one another so everyone would be all like "oh your the same i cant really bully you about how you look" so it would eliminate some bullying. Although some people think living in a world where every one is the same would be bad but in self esteem terms very good news for people.
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Chuck E. Muckle
5/22/2013 10:14:33 am
I think it comes down to the inhabitants living on the planet if it is all focused about unison and sameness, specifically if sameness comes naturally to the inhabitants or not. First of all, if it ( I will refer to sameness or unison to it now) came naturally to the citizens I think they will all be happy because they were born with it and they never really lost anything if they do things in unison and also they will be ignorant to the fact that they can be different to everyone else so the offsprings of the citizens will always be doing the same thing as everyone else; through this all the things that the red eyed man will come true, no wars, pain, bullies and anything else negative, however in the book it shows something different than the red eyed man's expectations. Now if people weren't born with it I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be so happy as I have said before because they will most likely be forced, pressured, or even punished until they submit to unison because everyone is different unless that planet's genetics are all the same but they are not they won't do or think the same unless they are pressured to do so and by studying the people's actions and expression they don't look too relaxed but more scared since unison isn't a natural thing to them so they are being the same out of fear the punishment if they aren't the same. So no, I don't think that every thing will be all well and good if we lived on camazors because we humans have not lived our lives the exacts same way as everyone else and eventually we will be sick of this monotonous cycle of activities and we will be unhappy.
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Hagrid
5/25/2013 03:19:41 pm
You make an interesting point about what you are born with. If you never taste chocolate, you will never have a reason to miss it or crave it. Perhaps that idea applies here.
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Violet
5/22/2013 11:26:11 am
Living in camazotz let us have higher self esteem but we would not be so happy. we would not be so happy because we would be doing the same things over and over again, which is not so much fun. Also there would be no individuality or being able to express yourself. Camazotz would higher our self esteem because you will not get judged or bullied by anyone by what you wear. living in Camazotz you will be no less than anyone else around you.
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Talena
5/22/2013 11:50:45 am
We would all have higher self esteem if we all lived on planet Camazotz, but we would also not be happy because we would all be doing the same things over and over again. In my opinion, doing the same things over and over again would not be so fun, it would not be fun at all. You would not have a chance to express yourself.
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Roy(DB)
5/22/2013 12:23:34 pm
I think if earth was like that then evryone would be depressed and bored because they would feel as if there stuck in a repeating movie that never stops.....
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Taylorgomez143
5/22/2013 01:28:57 pm
We would definitely have a higher self esteem, but we wouldn't be happier than we are in earth. In Camazotz we would be punished for mistakes that wee accidently make. In earth we don't have to be afraid of making mistakes. Everything being the same is quite boring and depressing. although since there would not be any judging because everyone is the same, that might boost our self esteem. but we might not even have a self esteem because we would be the same.
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Hagrid
5/25/2013 03:25:04 pm
You are correct in pointing out there is fear on Camazotz, the fear of making mistakes. On Earth we are encouraged to take risks because they enable us to learn and grow. We are allowed the opportunity to learn from our mistakes. So we do not have to live in fear of making them.
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Cynthia
5/22/2013 01:59:54 pm
If we all lived on camaztoz and we were all the same, how would we even know what happiness is? there is no crime, violence or difference and everyone is the same. The dictator seems to like having his people act like robots and by what i have found out, the dictator isnt a very happy person...Since the dictator doesnt seem very joyful im sure there is no happiness on that planet.
Meg states she would rather be different than the same as everyone else.
Not once have the three seen a decent smile on camaztoz. they live dull and bland lives. They most likely haven't been on vacation before, visited other places or tried anything new things.
I wouldn't want earth to ever be like that because I know for sure that I wouldn't have the same loving family, friends or ever experience what our world has to offer.
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Cookie Monster
5/23/2013 12:10:14 pm
Good point! How would we know what happiness is?
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Hagrid
5/25/2013 03:28:54 pm
You make an interesting point about vacations. I wonder what the stress level of the people of Camazotz is. Keeping up that regimented routine day after day must be exhausting.
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Hugo Cabret
5/22/2013 02:47:48 pm
Sure, living in Camazotz means no war, crime and world problems but it also gives no meaning to life. What will humans work towards?
How will we be able to learn from eachother? For me, self-esteem doesn't mean how well you can fit in. It means how well you can stand out and see others stand out as well. I'm sure the world would not be happier because we look forward to something new each day. We all have something we want to accomplish in the future. How will I be able to achieve my dreams when I have a job planned for me. In life, it is scary knowing that anything could happen tomorrow but it is motivating. Having your life planned out for you is not a joy but a pain to watch how you are not special.
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Annabeth
5/23/2013 11:00:13 am
You made some very good points there, Hugo. Some of which I hadn't thought of. I completely agree with you, living on Camazotz wouldn't really give a meaning to life. You live, you work, and then you die. Not a lot excitement if you ask me. Sometimes it's the worlds imperfections that make it so great.
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Hagrid
5/25/2013 03:38:25 pm
What a great observation. Camazotz will never evolve because nobody has anything to work towards. They will never discover new technologies. They will never discover new medications. A world without motivation is going to be stuck in the past until someone more advanced comes along and conquers them.
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Tweety Bird
5/23/2013 02:59:00 am
I don't agree.I think Camazotz is not a fun place. Many people would not enjoy living there because you don't get to express yourself. I also think people should learn how to deal with people that may not be so nice. Being unique and expressing yourself is a part of life and if we lived on Camazotz how would we do that? On Camazotz life would get boring with nothing exciting, everyone getting up and doing the same thing everyday for the rest of your life.
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Annabeth
5/23/2013 10:56:06 am
I think we wouldn't think badly of our selves because everybody is the same, and nobody would tease you. But you also couldn't express yourself, which I think is important. I don't think I would want to live on Camazotz, at least under the condition it's in now. We would have higher self-esteem, which is good, since a lot of people seem to have low self-esteem. But we probably wouldn't be very happy there, unless you really like thinking, looking, and acting the same way as everyone else.
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Tweety Bird
5/25/2013 09:58:59 am
i disagree Annabeth. i dont think we would have high self-esteem because everyone would be the same and know one would be proud of themselves because there would not be anything special.
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Cookie Monster
5/23/2013 12:16:24 pm
I think we would all be UNHAPPY because we would not get to do, play, or get anything we wanted. Life would be worthless. Everything would go acordingly to what one person wanted. ("IT" ) There also would be no such thing as self-esteem because you would not have a feeling of pride in yourself for anything. You wouldn't be able to accomplish anything unless you and "IT" had the same ideas -which based on his peronality is highly unlikely.
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Annie
5/24/2013 01:27:06 pm
I completely agree with you. I also like how you made sure to really emphasize how IT would control our lives if we alll lived on Camazotz. That was a key point in supporting your case.
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Hermione Granger
5/23/2013 01:13:08 pm
I think we would all have a higher self esteem. No one could tease anyone for the way they looked, because we'd all look the same (dress the same). No one would feel left out if they didn't have something that another person had (such as Iphone), because we'd all have the same things. We also wouldn't feel bad about our grades, because again they'd all be the same. All these things increase and decrease our self esteem and it also decides whether we have a high or low self esteem. On Camazotz, everybody would have a high self esteem, because we would all be the same. Except, would we actually be happy even with a high self esteem? I don't think we'd be happy, but since we are brainwashed into being the same, I think IT would also brainwash us into being happy.
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Hugo Cabret
5/23/2013 01:21:33 pm
I don't think we would have self esteem at all in Camazotz because we have no feelings. IT does not allow us to think what we want to.
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Hermione Granger
5/23/2013 01:27:49 pm
If I knew I was being brainwashed, I would be miserable. To think you couldn't even use your own emotions. By knowing this, my self esteem would probably decrease as well. (Note, before I was talking about if I didn't know I was being brainwashed and that would be my self esteem and emotion to this situation.)
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strawberrymiki (:
5/24/2013 03:36:17 pm
In a way, yes, I guess the people of our society would be happier if they lived on Camazotz and could feel like they belonged with everybody else. Especially the individuals who are bullied based on what they wear or what they do, nothing like that would happen on Camazotz since everyone would be the same. There would certainly be more peace and no one would come home crying because they have been judged by others.
However, in my opinion as an individual, I think that a world with everyone the same would be boring. If everybody was the same, and lived life the exact same way, what's the point of having friends? You would not have any stories to tell, or life experiences to teach to others, because everyone would be doing the same things throughout their life. Humans are like snowflakes, no two are alike, that's what makes life interesting.
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Hagrid
5/25/2013 03:43:52 pm
You make an interesting point about friends. Does friendship even exist on Camazotz? Can you appreciate friendship if there is no such thing as an enemy?
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RRSB
5/24/2013 06:07:04 pm
I think that this might help raise a persons self esteem because nobody has to worry about what to wear and what accessories to put with it because everybody wears and does exactly the same thing. Also I think that this wouldnt be happier for anybody to do the exact same thing that everybody else is doing and doing that exact same thing for the rest of their lives.